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Orthodoxy through another perspective
04-04-2010, 09:12 AM
Post: #8
 
Dear Rick,

Christ is Risen! A blessed and holy Pascha to you and your family.

Thanks for the reference to an interesting blog.

I was depressed by its opening, straight into the 'Rome broke away from us' polemic; really, does anyone save the Orthodox actually worry about this one? I've never met a Catholic who cared one way or the other, of course, they have said to me, that is what you are taught!

Of course, to the Oriental Orthodox there is an irony in the Chalcedonians treating each other as our forefathers were treated; but as Christians we cannot but be saddened by further divisions. What I can't quite do is to sympathise with the strident and somewhat self-righteous tone. There are two versions (at least) of this story, and one-sided polemic is a form of preaching to the choir. There is here, as elsewhere, that indefinable but definite whine of 'poor Orthodox' no one understands us, and yet we are right about everything so they ought to.' It is a kind of aggressive mendicancy, and one is tempted to treat it the way one does aggressive mendicants :roll:

The attempt to claim that the OCs in the USA are 'united' falls foul of his own critique, it ignores Gilquist's book, which shows how the EP refused to let the Evangelicals in, which is why they went to Antioch. If that is the blogger's idea of 'unity' then it would explain much about the progress, or lack of it, in evangelising non-Orthodox Smile

In splendidly solipsistic style he missed Negrut's point. Whilst he goes on about there being no theolgical differences between the OCs, he ignores the Oriental Orthodox, who, by implication Negrut means when he mentioned Alexandria; unless the blogger really imagines that the Greek Orthodox patriach of Alexandria is at the head of the largest group of Christians in Egypt! The poor stuff he spouts about our being Monophysites prompted me to wonder how much the blogger actually knew about the history of Christianity; he knows the EO version; that is not the same as history.

The whole thing was so redolent of the tone of Orthodoxinfo that in the end I gave up and went back to reading some St. Cyril - much more edifying for this season.

But, to be serious, I think the piece illustrates many of the points Fr. Gregory makes.

Those with a taste for polemic will find much in it; those of us looking for the authentic voice of a God who is love might want to re-read St. John Chrysostom's Pascha Homily which I have posted in the education section Big Grin

Thanks for posting this link, Rick, it reminded me of good ol Fr. Raphael and co, at Monochos - happy days!

In Christ,

John

In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. (1 John 4:10)
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Messages In This Thread
The Church of the Imagination - Rick Henry - 01-04-2010, 08:11 PM
[] - John Charmley - 01-04-2010, 09:21 PM
[] - Fr Gregory - 02-04-2010, 02:52 AM
[] - John Charmley - 02-04-2010, 08:04 AM
[] - John Charmley - 02-04-2010, 10:12 AM
[] - Rick Henry - 03-04-2010, 11:50 PM
[] - John Charmley - 04-04-2010 09:12 AM
[] - Rick Henry - 05-04-2010, 03:46 PM
[] - John Charmley - 05-04-2010, 06:16 PM
[] - Fr Gregory - 06-04-2010, 05:32 AM
[] - John Charmley - 06-04-2010, 09:07 AM
[] - Simon - 06-04-2010, 12:48 PM
[] - John Charmley - 06-04-2010, 01:18 PM
On Playing Our Part - Rick Henry - 06-04-2010, 04:03 PM
[] - John Charmley - 06-04-2010, 04:31 PM
[] - Rick Henry - 06-04-2010, 05:09 PM
[] - John Charmley - 07-04-2010, 01:14 PM
[] - Simon - 07-04-2010, 01:27 PM
[] - admin - 07-04-2010, 01:41 PM
[] - John Charmley - 07-04-2010, 02:12 PM
[] - Antony-Paul - 07-04-2010, 08:15 PM
[] - John Charmley - 07-04-2010, 10:06 PM
[] - admin - 08-04-2010, 09:01 AM
[] - John Charmley - 08-04-2010, 11:06 AM
[] - Rick Henry - 08-04-2010, 01:20 PM
[] - Rick Henry - 08-04-2010, 01:38 PM
[] - admin - 08-04-2010, 04:24 PM
[] - Rick Henry - 09-04-2010, 11:35 AM
[] - Antony-Paul - 09-04-2010, 04:34 PM
St. James? service - James-Antony - 09-04-2010, 09:04 PM
[] - admin - 10-04-2010, 12:26 PM
[] - Simon - 10-04-2010, 04:46 PM
[] - Fr Gregory - 11-04-2010, 06:31 AM
[] - John Charmley - 12-04-2010, 05:11 PM



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