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The Fathers and Theosis
29-04-2009, 06:01 PM
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I don't think that many EO's would suggest that the only means of salvation is an active pursuit of theosis, because that would mean that simpletons, the mentally challenged and children cannot be saved. So then, what is the purpose of theosis? Is it just an extracurricular activity for Christians? Theosis in EO thought is clearly a voluntary pursuit, and this is where it differs from Coptic usage of theosis or what I suggest is actually theopoiesis. Theopoiesis is the union of man to God and is freely bestowed on all who have been saved. God became man so that man might be made god. But there is no metamorphosis into the substance of God, but rather we are married to God and illuminated by Him. The EO's work out this connection ultimately too, but have gone through centuries of theological development regarding the difference between the divine essence and the divine energies and have sought to dissect and clearly define the more unknowable aspects of God. This pursuit, is what I believe to be that which, as others have noted, condemns theologians. Theopoiesis is not the journey to become God or the ascent of one's nous but rather is the completion of salvation, we are given the down payment of this promise at baptism/chrismation and thenceforth the Holy Spirit dwells in us, and we are charged with doing the will of God as our abilities allow so as not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. This requires also an understanding of blaspheming the Spirit. This is the permanent apostasy of an individual who has received the mysteries and has had the Spirit dwelling in them. This person cannot be saved.

God descended from on high, stooping down to our level and formed for himself a true human body and soul which was united to His Godhead at the moment of conception. He had bridged the chasm which divided the Creator from the creation and through His death and resurrection renewed mankind and made it possible for all to unite with Him. We are sons by adoption. As death came out of the will of man, salvation came by the will of God, and that will also became that of man's when God became man and thus when we conjoin ourselves to Christ through faith we also have a likeness of the will of Christ.

But because of Christ's sacrifice even those who have not known Him may be saved if they do by nature what is according to the law; but you may say then, why then must we go through the whole process of sacraments and going to church and what not? Here is the answer, both he who knows his benefactor and he who doesn't will both benefit from his generosity, but he who knows his benefactor should be thankful to him and love him and give him praise earnestly and honestly from the heart or else he is a thankless and selfish recipient and the benefactor will take away that which he has given and will give it no more.

And maybe now I'm preaching to the choir a little bit here too, but what I'm getting at is an illustration of what Christian life is; it's not to be a theologian and it's not a conscious and active pursuit of a method for salvation, it is willfully accepting that which has been bestowed upon us and being thankful for and giving due worship to Him who is our supreme benefactor.

While each has been given different talents and is expected to cultivate those talents for the glory of God and the edification of the church, we are not all called to the same earthly existence, some are monks, some are priests, some are husbands and wives, some are theologians, and some are factory workers. Therefore, not all can grasp theosis or comprehend it. There is nothing particularly wrong with theology but not all are predisposed to knowing it and they are no less equally awarded salvation than those who are. The Archimandrite George says that it is necessary to nourish our children's theosis and that later problems in life are the result of neglect - whereas we teach our children to love God and teach them about that which He has done for us; we baptize them and confirm them, and bring them to the eucharist, so that God can work in them.

Theopoiesis is not a process - it is a work of God. Theosis is a process and is the work of man with a final reward from God.
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The Fathers and Theosis - John Charmley - 19-08-2008, 09:41 AM
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