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The Right to Life - Mark Fletcher - 20-02-2007 01:54 PM
I felt very moved this afternoon when encountering a street stall manned by volunteers connected with the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children (SPUC) in Dover town centre. I have read His Holiness Pope Shenouda III's condemnation of the outrageous crime of abortion, and felt heartened.
It was so easy to see the Face of Christ in those caring, wonderful people standing at the table in the pouring rain trying to get signatures for their petition.
2007 marks the 40th anniversary of the British law change that marked in effect the freedom of choice to kill unborn children. More than 6 million babies have been killed since 1967.
Here are some Pro-Life organisations which featured on their leaflets and literature:
Crisis-pregnancy and abortion counselling:
P.O. Box 120
Kent ME13 8XD
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Tel.: 01795 591948
Right to Life - John Charmley - 20-02-2007 05:23 PM
Thank you for posting these links and the address.
It is a sign of the sickness of the age that in an era when 'Rights' are all the rage, 'a woman's right to choose' should trump someone else's 'right to life'.
Of course no one wishes to stand in judgement on any woman driven to this point by despair, darkness, and secular advice; our love and our prayers must be offered, along with our tears.
But for those who proclaim this as a 'lifestyle choice', well, they are lucky, they have a life and can make a choice - they might spare a thought for those who do not.
May Our Most Blessed Mother, the Holy Theotokos care for the souls of these murdered infants even as she did for Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and may they come to His peace and know His love and care; and may God forgive those poor souls who are driven to this wicked act; and may he have mercy on those who promulgate this wicked act, and may he turn their hearts from their sin, and towards His love and compassion.
Right to Life - John Charmley - 30-03-2007 07:54 AM
Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,
At the moment the media in Britain is pretty much saturated with coverage of the bicentenary of the British abolition of the slave trade, and much of the commentary is along the lines of 'how could our forebears have accepted this evil so easily?'
Perhaps the answer lies in examining the beam in our own eye. As a society we accept and even advocate the idea of abortion; we stand by whilst millions of unborn infants are killed; we seem, as a society, to accept the sophistical argument that because the child is in the womb it is not a child; and we accept the discriminatory argument that the 'woman's right to choose' trumps all other 'rights'.
I can see where this differs from the sophistical argument that black people are not really human because they are not white; and I can see where it differs from the discriminatory argument that black people, being less than human, do not have the rights that white people have; in these latter cases acceptance of the arguments led to a horrible trade in people, degradation for all involved; untold suffering for those sold into slavery; and early death for millions; in the former cases, no unborn child even survives.
Is this too harsh and unChristian a view? Or, in years to come, will our descendants look back on this society using the same tone of voice we now use about slavery? Might abortion be the modern practice which the future condemns us for, even as we condescend to the past?
Unborn Children - forum - 30-03-2007 07:06 PM
This is a difficult area which has no simple solution because we have left behind or dismissed the once accepted right of a child to be brought up if possible, within in a loving family unit. How do we return to this basic premiss which is so derided by this modern generation? One would think that the various reports that keep pointing to the possible cause of todays children being so lost and out of control as being linked to this one fact, the penny would start to drop! Till people start to recognise the responsiblity that they have to one another and how their actions can effect and even damage future generations can we hope to regain a society that is not so ego centric.
With blessing in Our Lord
Save the children? - John Charmley - 30-03-2007 09:36 PM
You are quite right. Of course, there has never been any guarantee that a two-parent family will be loving, but common sense, and experience, as well as the surveys you cite, suggest that it is the least imperfect way to bring up children; the great tragedy is that so many will not be brought into the world at all.
Children - John Charmley - 01-04-2007 04:36 PM
How sad it is that in our society so many seem to have succumbed to the notion that children are simply another possession which we can choose to 'have' or 'discard'.
It is ironic, given the way in which women's groups have (rightly) identified the commodification of women as one of the chief effects of pornography, that so many of them go on to do just that with children, arguing for a 'woman's right to choose'.
This is essentially a liberal, secular argument, which posits the existence of a 'right' to choose, and elevates it above a 'right' to life. It goes to show the tendentiousness of arguments about 'rights'. Rights do not exist in the abstract; someone has to formulate them. For thousands of years no one 'knew' that being 'human' conferred any rights on you.
Christianity, by emphasising that each of us is precious in the eyes of the God that made us, played a major role in making human society more humane; without it, it appears unlikely that slavery would have been abolished in the west. But Christianity is truly radical, it preaches God's ways, not our own, and it calls us to repentance and amendment of life - not a series of self-serving soft options where we get what we want.
Children are a precious gift from God; they are also a trial and a call to self-martyrdom; no one is forced to have them, and everyone should think carefully about what they are taking on: a life time's care and concern - and there's no instruction manual and no money-back guarantee; equally, we should not, as a society, be eliminating these little ones on the pretext that because they are still in the womb they are not 'human' and have no 'rights'.
It is a shame that it has taken so long for Governments to get back, albeit in a hesitant and (typically) half-hearted fashion, to the notion that families need some support from the taxation system.
Children are the future of any society, and one can tell much about a society's attitude to its future by the way it treats its children; does our attitude say anything good about that?